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Sunday, November 20, 2011

A Review and the Week Ahead - 11/21

I thought I would start today's post with a review of the past few months, what my thoughts were, what actually happened and then what I think is going on now and what might happen in the future. I think this will be good for me also as I will be kind of thinking out aloud here.

Last couple of months or so have not been easy to navigate..But still there were lot of nice intraday opportunities and nice scalp trades out there.

Going back a bit, I think before Oct, I was expecting the 80 week low to come in sometime in November. But what actually happened was for Oct4th to show some kind of major low and put in a spectacular move out of it. The amplitude of the move out of this low was not expected for a 5 week low because a 5 week low was what I was expecting in Oct first week. The enormous rally out of that low had Sentient also confused and it started to label that low as the 80 week low which means it came very early for such a major low. You may remember the flip flopping and confusion at that time. I was very skeptical but eventually 'turned' and started to count Oct4th as indeed a major low. Once we took out 5200, I became confident that we were going to have a good rally for next few months. But market stalled at 5400 and broke down badly from there. Once we took out 5200 to the downside, I sold all cash positions and started to lean in bearish. And now..surprise surprise..Sentient also has changed its count and is thinking now that the 80week low is dead ahead of us. Infact we are very much in the time range for that low. Below is a screenshot of ST's latest view.



As you can see ST is expecting a major low right ahead. Is it already in last week? Could be..but we do not have any confirmation yet. And looking at how the momentum was last week, I think we might have some more work on the downside but it should be over very soon..Maybe next few days will do it. But price can quickly breakdown in matter of few days. Last week showed us that.

So bottom line..
We saw the last 80 week low around May 25th
The last 40 week low around Feb 11th
The last 20 week low on June 20th
The last 10 week low most likely on August 26th
The last 5 week low most likely on October 4th

So now projecting forward, we are around 40weeks from the last 40 week low and around 17.8 months from the last 80 week low. So we are well within the window of the 18month(80 week) low.

So maybe we can go up retest the 5000-5050 area again before revisiting the lows..maybe 4750 again to set low? Or maybe a bit lower to 4650-4600 area? One thing however need to be very careful here because we are in the window of the 80 week low. And rallies out of these major lows can be pretty spectacular and also very unkind to shorts.

Looking at the higher cycles. If you remember my older posts, I was thinking that along with the 80 week nest of lows, we would get the 4.5yr and 9yr lows as well. But after seeing price action over past 2 months or so, I am rethinking on this. I dont think this is a valid scenario anymore. i.e the higher timeframe longer term lows are not yet in...But we still can see a rally for couple of months in another 18 month bear cycle before it tops and goes for the next leg down. Yes too much to think right now but just wanted to put this out there because its a deviation from my original views. So what I meant to say is even though the 80week low can be bought for a positional trade, we will most likely see lower lows sometime next year. But then let us trade cycle to cycle..The smaller timeframe cycles.

I expect the bounceback to continue and then maybe we can go for one more shot down to set the 80 week low. All this can happen very quickly since we are in the 80 week low window. I will post updates if I see something different from this scenario in this immediate timeframe.

Best,
Lee

4 comments:

Nandi said...

Hi Lee,
Even with sophisticated tools, you find it difficult to trade now a days. What about ordinary traders not having any tools? really pathetic. Their problems were multiplied by TV analysts who predicted 5600 - 5800 during this month end.
I was wondering why you have changed your earlier view that low is due for Nov end. After reading this post and looking at the chart I understand now. Though confused with your view I did hold my view that low will be in Vrischikom ( 17th Nov to 16th Dec).
However, appreciate your earnestness, hard work and more over aptitude to help fellow trades.
Regards
Balanandan

RICHARDSDIAZ said...

hi lee what data feeds you use with your sentient trader software.
regards
Richard

vamsi said...

Thanks Lee for the wonderful analysis of your earlier and current views. Beautifully presented.Your earlier view looks correct. But I must say market was manipulated by hedge funds and took Nifty to 5400 levels and technically look bullish. This trapped all Shorts earlier and now all Longs.
Not actively trading due to some work. I log in to your blog, Kumar Sirs blog and Ilango sirs blog when ever I have time to update myself about the market.

Lee said...

Hi Bala,
These kind of things happen at this major cycle lows. Throw in the unprecedented market manipulation, intervention and global turmoil out there. It has been tough for sure.

Richard, I dont use any feeds, just download ascii data from yahoo and input that in...let me know if you need any help.

Bvdr, probably a great decision not to trade :) Wait for couple or 3 more weeks we should have the 80 week low in by then..

Best,
Lee